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He did the crimes that he was accused of committing and was convicted of committing.

But there was a lot greater harm of the people who were in his orbit, especially the women he was married to,

those that he had romantic relationships, be they physical or emotional or

epistolary, and for sure, the girl that he killed and the woman that he almost murdered.

I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a non-fiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas. I'm also the host of the Historical True Crime Podcast, Tenfold More Wicked on Exactly Right.

I've traveled around the world interviewing people for the show.

I've interviewed some people in person and some from my home studio over Zoom.

And they are all excellent writers.

They've had so many great true crime stories,

and now we want to tell you those stories

with details that have never been published.

Tenfold More Wicked Presents Wicked Words is about the choices that writers make, good and bad.

It's a deep dive into the stories, behind the stories.

Author Sarah Weinman is one of my most favorite guests. You might remember her from last season

when she talked about her true crime book The Real Alita. Now she's talking about her new book,

Scoundrel.

It's the story of a killer, the women in his life,

and the conservative political commentator who tried to save him.

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