It's graduation season and many young people getting ready to launch or finding a job market that is increasingly challenging to say the least.

Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Jody Cantor knows a thing or two about getting to the heart of the matter.

And in her new book, How to Start, she's giving advice on how to approach embarking on a career.

But Jody's a multi-hyphenate, and while she's here, we're going to get her thoughts on the post-me-2 era, since she was such a pivotal figure,

and her new beat at the New York Times covering the Supreme Court.

Jody Cantor, I'm so happy to see you, Jody.

I'm so glad to be back, Katie.

So, so many topics, so little time, although we have more time than most people.

It's been nine years.

I can't believe it since your Pulitzer Prize winning story exposing Harvey Weinstein happened. And

I'm so curious to talk to you about this post-me-to era we find ourselves in. Is it a post-me-to era?

I don't know. It's been referred to as such. And maybe that's a good question. What in your view,

and I've been asked this a lot myself, are the lasting ramifications of the Me Too movement?

Did it really change things? Has there been a backlash? And if so, why?

I mean, the backlash is massive.

The backlash is led by the president of the United States right now.

And yet the crazy thing is, Me Too just seems to go on and on and on and on.

I have read so many obituaries, Katie, for the Me Too movement.

And then, like, 36 hours later,

some woman comes out about a very important and grave story, and the conversation continues. So just recently, we have two scandals in Congress about elected officials crossing the line,

one Republican, one Democrat. We've got Giselle

Palicoe holding her head high through the nightmare of all nightmares. We have my colleagues

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