If like me, you potentially over-focus on annual vegetables, maybe a little perennial

vegetables, maybe some fruits, and you want a little more beauty, a little more intrigue

in the garden, while flowers are a really great way to start, it's sort of a lower effort

way than some of the other flowers you might introduce.

And we have Mike Lazotte on the podcast, who's the author of Mini Meadows, and also owner

and all things seed over at American Meadows.

So certainly, the go-to resource here, Mike, have you seen in this last couple years of

gardening a big uptick in desire for, you know, flower gardens, meadows, things like that?

Yeah, we certainly have Kevin, obviously with the pandemic, and we saw a massive surge

of people get into gardening.

We were obviously really excited that we were getting more and more inquiries about, you

know, putting in Mini Meadows on their property, you know, doing something good for the environment.

I think people are sick of the maintenance that are lawn in the environmental, the negative

environmental impacts of watering and fertilizers and stuff like that.

So wanting to do something better for the environment, one of the big reasons.

But also something just as simple as beautification, you know, being able to look out into a small

Mini Meadow of flowers and really getting enjoyment out of that, especially during some

pretty difficult times for a lot of people.

So, you know, not only are the positive environmental impacts, but just the simple beautification.

And then, of course, Kevin and I think this even started before the pandemic was this

idea of wanting to support pollinators.

We've been hearing about pollinator climb for bees, for monarchs, and consumers wanting

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