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Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

Why You're Still Anxious (Even When Life Is Going Well) | Dr. Curt Thompson

Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

Shawn Johnson + Andrew East

Society & Culture

5.039.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Come meet us on tour & pre-order our book here! https://thecouragetocommit.com/ Psychiatrist, author, and speaker Curt Thompson joins us for a powerful conversation about anxiety, shame, healing, relationships, and what it means to be truly known. Drawing from neuroscience, attachment theory, and decades of clinical experience, Curt explains why so many people feel disconnected, why shame is often hiding beneath our struggles, and how real transformation happens through connection- not isolation. We also discuss suffering, hope, mental health, community, and the stories we tell ourselves. Whether you're navigating anxiety, feeling stuck, working through past wounds, or simply trying to build deeper relationships, this conversation offers practical wisdom and hope. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did! Find out more about Dr. Curt Thompson here! https://curtthompsonmd.com/ https://www.instagram.com/curtthompsonmd/?hl=en Love you guys, Shawn & Andrew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up everybody? Welcome back to a couple things interviews. With Sean and Andrew.

0:03.6

Today we have the one and only Kurt Thompson. I think it's Dr. Kurt Thompson.

0:07.7

Dr. Kurt Thompson. And Dr. Thompson has written several books, one of which is called The Soul of Shame,

0:15.1

which I think is an important book for all of us to read. I feel like we live in a culture that

0:19.3

shares a lot of shame and has a lot of

0:22.1

shame and people feel a lot of shame and you don't know what to do with that. So he shares his

0:26.2

perspective on that. We're grateful to know him, grateful that he gave us his time. And if you want to

0:30.6

find out more about him and his books, we'll link his information down below. Without further ado.

0:35.7

Dr. Kurt Thompson. Dr. Kurt Thompson. It is a pleasure to have you here.

0:40.7

Thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. It's, you know, 10 years ago, I wouldn't

0:50.0

have predicted I would be having this conversation with you all. And it's just really lovely to

0:54.7

be, of course, maybe 10 years ago, you might not have either because like 10 years ago, you didn't have a six, a four, an eight years old. Correct. Correct. And you're in the thick of it. And so it's really a privilege to be with you. Yeah. Thanks for doing, thanks for being willing to do the hard work. Oh, it, uh, being a being, being parents.

1:13.3

It's a journey. I wanted to ask you as you say hard work, though, we've had this show where we talked

1:19.3

about couples and marriage and the, the hard work of it for seven years now. And I think the most

1:26.2

shocking thing to me that I hear over and over and over

1:28.5

again from young parents and people in the dating world and people new to marriage is nobody

1:36.1

believes that it is hard work or that hard work should be a part of it. Is that a societal flaw or is

1:43.4

that just something that people are being, you know,

1:47.2

raised to believe is not part of parenting and marriage and relationships anymore?

1:54.1

Well, you know, there are some things I would say that are, in some respects, there are lots

1:59.8

of things that are particular to our age, right, 20, 25.

2:04.7

And there are things that are particular to being human, which have been around since Genesis

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