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All right best night of the week best guys in the world. Welcome to Real Men.

Pastor Mark here, this week is a little bit different.

I'm pre-recording and I'll tell you why,

and if you think about it, be in prayer.

We've got some pastors in from all over the country in partnership with our friends

at XO Marriage. They published the Real Romance book from Grace and I. They put out our weekly

Real Marriage Podcast and pastors are struggling.

Most reports say that between 38 to 50% of pastors, depending upon what survey you believe,

are really discouraged looking at quitting

and leaving ministry altogether.

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