Why You Feel Disconnected
Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins
Dr. Amy Robbins
4.8 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 23 March 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
All trauma is spiritual trauma. It severs the impulse to reach for wonder, connection, and meaning—the very essence of our soul. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, a leading voice on embodiment and spiritual trauma, redefines how we understand healing. We explore the holes trauma leaves in our souls, why the body is the portal back to our spirituality, and a simple yet profound practice (heart rate sensing) that can unlock your intuition and reconnect you to yourself. This is a conversation about the space between life and death, and the path back to who you really are.
00:00 The Core Wound: Trauma as a Spiritual Severing
03:36 What is the "Space Between" Life and Death?
05:18 The Many Deaths We Live Before We Die
08:19 How Spiritual Trauma is Diagnosed in the Therapy Room
13:19 Defining Spirituality vs. Religion
16:27 Spiritual Trauma: Severing the Drive for Wonder
19:47 Why Spirituality is the Antidote to Trauma
23:28 The Risk of Spiritual Bypassing and a Grounded Path Back
26:09 Rehabilitating Therapy to Heal the Soul
30:34 A Case Study in Spiritual Flourishing
44:20 How to Embody: Interoception and Heart Rate Sensing
51:23 Where to Find Dr. Hillary McBride
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· Website: [HillaryLMcBride.com](http://www.hillaryl McBride.com)
· Instagram: @hillaryleanamcbride
· Books: The Wisdom of Your Body, Practices for Embodied Living, Holy Hurt
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Life, Death & the Space Between Dr. Amy Robbins
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| 0:00.0 | All trauma is spiritual trauma. Every single bit of it. If you've ever had a heartbreak that leveled |
| 0:07.3 | you, a belief system that crumbled, a version of yourself that had to die, you've experienced it. |
| 0:14.5 | We've just never called it that. And because we've never called it death, we've never learned to |
| 0:20.3 | grieve. We never learned to grieve. |
| 0:23.6 | We never learned to trust the process. |
| 0:29.8 | Think about a baby reaching for something shiny, that instinct to move towards wonder, |
| 0:33.4 | towards connection, towards something bigger than yourself. |
| 0:42.8 | Now, imagine that impulse being severed, made unsafe. That is what trauma does. It doesn't just hurt you. It cuts you off from the part that knows how to reach. Dr. Hillary McBride is a therapist, |
| 0:51.0 | researcher, and one of the leading voices on embodiment and spiritual trauma. |
| 0:55.9 | She says trauma doesn't just wound your nervous system. It leaves a hole in your soul. |
| 1:03.1 | That space where your drive for meaning used to live. She believes spirituality isn't just what we lose in trauma. |
| 1:12.6 | It's also the most underutilized resource we have to heal it. |
| 1:17.3 | The way back to that is already inside of you. |
| 1:20.4 | It's through your own heartbeat. |
| 1:23.4 | Not taking your pulse, just feeling it. |
| 1:26.5 | Hillary calls this interoception, |
| 1:29.1 | and the science behind it will change how you understand your body forever. |
| 1:34.4 | Here's this week's episode with the incredible Dr. Hillary McBride. |
| 1:39.5 | We need at our table of awareness, the logician, |
| 1:43.2 | but equally we need the intuitive, we need the mystic. |
| 1:46.0 | I was died. |
| 1:47.0 | I was allowed to go to the very precipice of death, of life and death, |
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