Soul Dislocation and the Way Back
Life, Death & The Space Between with Dr. Amy Robbins
Dr. Amy Robbins
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🗓️ 30 March 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Lorena Savvedra Smith talks about something most of us feel but can’t name: soul dislocation. That spiraling, fragmented feeling after a hard conversation. The numbness when the world feels like too much. Her ancestors had a name for it, and a way back. In this conversation, we explore why our rush to “heal” with ancient practices might be causing more harm, and how true healing asks us to stop running from nature’s power—and run toward it.
00:00 Introduction: The Ferocity of True Healing
03:54 What is Eco-Psychology?
06:02 Growing Up With Ancestral Wisdom
09:48 Nature: Grandmother and Ferocious Wind
14:57 Honoring Ancient Practices Without Colonizing Them
21:48 Lessons From the Elders: We Are All Family
26:07 The Jaguar’s Call: Running Toward What Frightens Us
29:33 Shaman or Priest? On Language and Lineage
36:00 The KARE Methodology: Calling Your Soul Back
47:14 Where to Find Lorena and Her Work
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| 0:00.0 | In Western cultures, we've become so separate. We've become separate from ourselves. |
| 0:05.9 | And one of the things we've become most separate from is nature. You are not separate from nature. |
| 0:13.5 | You are nature. We've been sold on the idea that healing means going outside, forest bathing, sunrise walks, and plant medicine retreats. |
| 0:24.3 | And there may be some truth to that. But we've only been getting part of the story. |
| 0:30.3 | Because nature isn't just the soft, gentle grandmother we've romanticized. It is also the ferocious wind that takes everything in its path. |
| 0:41.9 | And until we stop running from that power, we're not actually healing. |
| 0:47.4 | We're just borrowing peace we haven't earned. |
| 0:51.3 | Lorena Savadra Smith is an Andean soul psychologist and the author of Awaken Your |
| 0:58.0 | Roots. She is the carrier of wisdom passed down from her Peruvian elders. She's here to talk about |
| 1:05.3 | something she calls soul dislocation, the spiraling, fragmented feeling after a hard conversation, or the numbness |
| 1:15.1 | that sets in when the world feels like too much. Modern psychology has a name for it, but her |
| 1:22.2 | ancestors had a deeper one, and they have a way back too. |
| 1:31.0 | She has something to say about our rush to ancient practices, |
| 1:35.7 | the Palo Santo, the ceremonies, the shamanic healers. |
| 1:41.7 | That rush to heal, she says, might actually be causing harm. |
| 1:47.4 | And with that, I bring you this week's episode of life, death, and the space between. We need at our table of awareness, the logician, but equally we need the intuitive, |
| 1:53.9 | we need the mystic. I was died. I was allowed to go to the very precipice of death, of life and |
| 1:59.7 | death, and look over the edge. |
| 2:01.9 | And I was allowed to behold what was there and allowed to come back. |
| 2:06.0 | Most people aren't. |
| 2:06.9 | When we talk about being aligned with ourself or being aligned with our soul or hearing our higher self, |
| 2:12.3 | that's really what we're talking about is being connected to that divine part of our self, |
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