The way that traumatic, intrusive thoughts work is you don't want to think about it,

but you kind of can't stop thinking about it.

It just comes unbidden into your mind all the time, and it does visit you as an intruder.

Now, I think that any intruder is usually a psychic intruder is asking for integration.

Welcome to this Jungian life. Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah

Stewart and Joseph Lee, invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that

brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia.

I'm Joseph Lee, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, on Cape Cod.

From time to time on the podcast, we like to look at certain kinds of dreams because, of course, dreams are very individual. What your dream means is very particular to you. However, there are common themes in dreams, and we like to explore those from time to time. So this week on the podcast, we're going to be looking at intruders. What are

intruders mean psychologically? And specifically, what do they mean when they show up in our

dreams? So one of the things that I looked up in preparation for this episode is the etymology

of intrusion. As you know, we like to look at the meanings of the words because there are

layers of meaning attached to words. An intruder comes from two Latin words from in, which means

into or toward, and trudere, which means to thrust or to push. So something pushes or

Joseph, I'll let you. or to push. So something pushes or...

Joseph, I'll let you go there. I don't know. But please continue.

What pushes or thrust its way into our lives? And how does this show up in dreams

and how can we understand that?

And I'm thinking just about the definition here

and the word itself of intruder,

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