there's something about this topic that what it really gets at is the relationship between consciousness

and the unconscious, which of course, you know, is one of the ideas that undergirds all of

Young in essence. And I think as you were saying, Joseph, you know, basically, yeah, we've got

ego consciousness, but it is a fragile little thing. You know,

Jung at one point had this dream where he was holding a little lit candle in a storm and he had

to protect it. And his interpretation of that was, that's consciousness. And I've got to protect it.

Otherwise, it's going to get snuffed out by the winds. So we wake up every day, and that

is, you know, the age-old symbolism of the sun arising from the depths in the east, you know,

with consciousness renewed. Welcome to this Jungian life. Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee,

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective

to important issues of the day.

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia.

I'm Joseph Lee, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jung that most all of us can identify.

You're exhausted, you're overwhelmed, you've gotten a big emotional hit,

and suddenly your thinking kind of tilts a bit,

your focus drops, these feelings can surge, memories can jump in, images, worries, strange

ideas kind of push their way into your consideration. And over a century ago, a French psychologist, Pierre Jeannet,

was studying this kind of shift, and he gave it a name, a basement de nouveau mental,

which is a lowering of the mind's organizing level. Now, Jung studied with Jeunay, and this idea was very helpful for him to explain

many of the things that he was observing and became an essential idea in the way that he conceptualized

who we are and how our psyche functions.

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