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This is the Tom Hartman program.

One of the few Republicans or former Republicans in this case whose podcasts I enjoy

is Joe Walsh. He's got one called White Flag with Joe Walsh. I believe there's like

three of them out now and bring us up to date. It's over an apple and other podcast providers.

His Twitter handle Walsh Freedom. He's a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives in Illinois,

the eighth district former presidential candidate, author of F Silence, calling Trump out for the

culture's moronic authoritarian con man he is and now an independent Joe. Welcome to the program.

Hey, it's awful nice to be with you, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. Back at you.

Donald Trump came out yesterday and said the insurrection took place on November 3rd election day,

January 6th was the protest. You're calling this an act of war. Do you want to elaborate?

Maybe I got over my skis a little bit, but I don't think that I'm no longer outraged by anything

Trump does. I believe he's a dictator. I believe he's an American. I believe he's a traitor.

In my mind, that was a declaration of war. What did he do, Tom? He attacked our elections again.

He said that a democratic election was the insurrection and the insurrection was the protest.

I found that statement to be an utter attack on this country and it's pathetic that no Republican

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