There's something really interesting about this country in relation to sexuality.

There is an enormous taboo on sex education rather than the understanding that it is actually the repression

that will unleash a kind of sexuality that is often about smot and titillation.

A psychotherapist, best-selling author, one of the most prominent authorities on relationships, Esther Perra.

I think there's a number of things in a relationship that become the cornerstones of the demise.

Indifference and contempt and neglect and violence.

I'm not talking about big violence.

Microaggressions are plenty.

So how do we even get to this place?

After having been so in love, it's so romantic, right? There's only two relationships that resemble each other. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness Podcast. I'm very excited about our guest today. Thank you so much for being here, Esther Perel. It's a pleasure. You've got an amazing book called Mating in Captivity, Unlocking, Erotic Intelligence.

And so make sure everyone go and check out this book.

We'll have it linked up at the end of the show notes as well.

I became aware of you before Summit Series.

I remember hearing about this book and who you were, but I never really dove into your work until Summit Series happened, which is a conference for essentially inspiring entrepreneurs and people looking to take over the world in their own industry.

I call it the mixture of Ted Davos and Burning Man.

There you go, yes, exactly, that type of people, that type of crowd.

And you spoke, you were supposed to speak

at like a little tiny restaurant uh on this cruise ship and i remember going to this and like just the

line outside we couldn't even get in so i remember experiencing that i've been like oh i hope she

you know talks again and then you talked like four more times and so i showed up early for like

one of the few ones

after that and it took like an hour for you to start because there was like thousands of people

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