Why We Need to Change The Way We Think About Race & How DEI, Identity Politics & Wokeness Have Likely Furthered Racial Divides

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Mayim Bialik

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Wellness, Health & Fitness, Comedy, Thebigbangtheory, Spirituality, Selfimprovement, Mentalhealth

4.7 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

What if everything you thought you knew about race, racism, and social justice was only part of the story? In this explosive episode, Coleman Hughes, (Free Press writer, podcast host of Conversations with Coleman, and author of The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America) joins Mayim and Jonathan for a deep, nuanced discussion about identity, equality, and the role of technology in shaping cultural narratives. From the rise of critical race theory and the decline of race relations post-2013 to the algorithmic outrage fueled by social media, Hughes breaks down the data behind America’s polarization and makes the case for true colorblindness. Is DEI making things better or worse? Are inherited trauma and systemic racism scientifically valid concepts? Hughes tackles how identity politics gave rise to Donald Trump, the difference between neo-racism and old-school racism and why he believes we need to talk about race less, not more. Whether you agree or disagree, this is a must-watch for anyone grappling with today’s culture wars. Don't miss this thought-provoking dialogue.

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0:00.0	Can you tell us what changed in 2013?
0:03.0	Everyone in America got two pieces of civilization changing technology.
0:09.0	One is called the iPhone.
0:11.0	One is called social media.
0:14.0	2013 was roughly the time when everyone and their mom was on Facebook.
0:18.0	This changed everything in the following sense.
0:23.6	Information is now filtered through an algorithm which is designed to show it precisely to the people
0:26.5	that will be most angered by it
0:28.3	because that's what the algorithm does,
0:30.9	maximizes for engagement.
0:32.9	Once we had smartphones and technology,
0:35.2	that enabled a narrative to build that it was open season on cops shooting black people.
0:42.1	If you're in an ideology which hyper fixates on race, you're trained to jump to,
0:47.5	they're mistreating me because I'm black.
0:50.1	I do believe that there are certain aspects of our country that are rooted in racism.
0:57.3	Where is that fixing going to happen?
1:00.7	How long do we as a society keep waiting?
1:03.7	The permanent basis for hope is that each new generation is an opportunity to actually get
1:09.5	past race as an obsession and as a reason
1:12.5	for division. I don't believe there's any scientific basis for you inheriting trauma for things
1:18.5	you did not yourself experience. I'm going to push you here because...
1:30.2	Hi, I'm I'm Bialik.
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