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Wonder Cabinet

Why We Need Fairy Tales Now — with Sharon Blackie

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Sharon Blackie is one of our foremost fairy tale interpreters.  In her new book, “Ripening: Why Women Need Fairy Tales Now,” she reclaims the subversive fairy tale heroines of the past.  Not passive, well-behaved princesses — think Tatterhood instead of Cinderella, the Fox Wife instead of Sleeping Beauty — figures from centuries-old European folk tales that were whispered over hearths and spinning wheels, and handed down from one generation of women to the next, not as children’s entertainment but a blueprint for survival, maps for soul retrieval and cultural regeneration. 

The brave, smart heroines and wise old women in these tales offer us an alternative, “post-heroic” model of psychological development, Blackie says. A code of ethics based on kinship with the more-than-human world of animals and plants, and a celebration of old-fashioned virtues like compassion, kindness and reciprocity. Fairy tale heroines, Blackie says, don’t slay dragons — they make them part of the team. 

Fairy tales are part of our collective unconscious, a storehouse of archetypes and images that predate the modern world.  There's a bridge back to the enchanted landscapes and animist sensibilities of our ancestors — a gateway to wonder.  In this conversation, Blackie shows us how to unlock their power and find our way back the imaginal world. 

0:00 Introduction
2:25 Why Fairy Tales Are Survival Stories
12:25 Beyond the Hero's Journey
27:05 Jung, Hillman, and the Imaginal World
41:45 Active Imagination and Closing Thanks

Wonder Cabinet is hosted by Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson. Find out more about the show at https://wondercabinetproductions.com, where you can subscribe to the podcast and our newsletter.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Wonder Cabinet.

0:02.0

I'm Anne Strange Champs.

0:05.0

And I'm Steve Paulson.

0:06.0

Once upon a time, there was a girl and a poisoned apple,

0:10.0

a wolf upstairs, a witch at the door.

0:14.0

There were hard times and evil spells, a dark castle, and a withered land.

0:19.0

So she has no choice but to set out for the wild woods.

0:23.2

Or she cries and wanders, but does eventually find help.

0:27.2

From a talking tree or an enchanted bird or a fox or a frog.

0:33.0

A helpful spider, a den of mice, a family of bears.

0:36.4

The message is pretty clear.

0:38.3

People who don't really know fairy tales or who didn't grow up with fairy tales are constantly

0:43.3

asking what on earth are you writing about fairy tales for?

0:46.3

You know, they don't get it.

0:48.3

And it's kind of hard to explain sometimes just how deeply the images and the characters

0:53.3

lodge inside us. Even the simplest of

0:56.8

stories can provide this vast array of psychological insight and inspiration. They're magic.

1:04.0

And they offer what we most need today, a trail of breadcrumbs out of the wasteland and

1:10.1

back into relationship with the

1:11.9

imaginal world, where archetypes mingle with animus roots and ecological memories.

1:18.2

Our guest today is Sharon Blackie, folklorist, fairy tales scholar, feminist psychotherapist,

1:24.2

author of half a dozen books about fairy tales. Also, an extremely popular literary

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