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The Rest Is Science

Why We Cry Out In Pain

The Rest Is Science

Goalhanger

Science, Physics, Mathematics

4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Have you stubbed your toe and shouted an unrepeatable word? Isaac Newton and Robert Boyle were two of the greatest minds in humanity. Did their egos and competition with one another hold them back or drive them onto huge breakthroughs? Professor Hannah Fry and Michael Stevens explore the bizarre neurology of vocalised pain, revealing how a good yelp actually acts as a biological off-switch for suffering and unearth if Newton was the biggest crybaby in science. Plus, Hannah gives us a behind-the-scenes look at her brand-new series exploring the cutting edge of Artificial Intelligence. ------------------- For more information about Cancer Research UK, their research, breakthroughs and how you can support them, visit ⁠⁠⁠https://cancerresearchuk.org/restisscience⁠⁠⁠ Cancer Research UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1089464), Scotland (SC041666), the Isle of Man (1103) and Jersey (247). A company limited by guarantee. Registered company in England and Wales (4325234) and the Isle of Man (5713F). Registered address: 2 Redman Place, London, E20 1JQ. ------------------- Find The Rest Is Science all over the internet by ⁠⁠clicking ⁠here⁠.⁠⁠ ------------------- Video Producer: Adam Thornton + Oli Oakley Video & Social: Bex Tyrrell Assistant Producer: Imee Marriott Senior Producer: Lauren Armstrong-Carter Head Of Digital: Samuel Oakley Exec Producer: Neil Fearn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the rest of science. This is Fieldnote. It's a kind of podcast expedition of the mind, as it were, where Michael and I, we're trading the curious thoughts that have been occupying us.

0:12.2

That's right. And we also entertain questions and thought experiments from you all.

0:18.2

We certainly do. And in general, we want you to send them in. Send us in anything

0:23.1

you want us to know, your thought experiments, the things that have been troubling you. Now,

0:27.7

later in this episode in the second half, I am going, I've got my sort of object, as it were,

0:33.0

it's a metaphorical object this time, Michael. I'm going to be sharing with you the thing that I currently

0:38.8

find most troubling about the future with AI. I've got a few stories to tell you. But we're first

0:47.2

going to go to your questions, as we always do, to our little mailbox. That's right. I wanted to

0:51.2

read you an email that we got from John. This is just very cool,

0:54.7

and it's so related to our previous episodes. You get extra brownie points for that. So John

1:01.3

emailed us to say, hi, to make the link between two of your recent programs, Paul Hoffman,

1:07.3

who in his biography of Erdish, the man who loved only numbers, wrote the following.

1:12.8

Listen to this.

1:14.1

Go on.

1:14.5

A conjecture both deep and profound is whether the circle is round.

1:19.9

In a paper of Erdish, written in Kurdish, a counter-example is found.

1:25.7

So we've got Maths, Limerericks and Erdisch.

1:28.2

Erdosh. How did we say it in the show?

1:30.6

How did we say it in the show?

1:32.8

I don't think we said it to rhyme with Kurdish.

1:35.8

This limerick is a brilliant way to remember how to pronounce Urdish, because it rhymes with Kurdish.

1:43.8

I think that's one of the reasons Hoffman wrote it.

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