Hello, it's Hannah here.

And Michael.

And welcome to The Restis Science.

And today we're doing something a little bit different because we are here with Dominic

Sanbrook of Restis history fame, Dominic.

Welcome to our side of the fence.

Thank you very much.

It's lovely to be on a properly professional podcast for once. One, which the presenters actually know what they're talking about. This is an absolute first for me, so it's very exciting. Dominic, I love bringing the literature into the lab. Would you consider this podcast a lab, Hannah? Sure. It's a lab of the mind. It's an ideal lab at least. But Dominic, you've got a new

show out that's called The Book Club. And so I wanted to hear about it and I wanted to talk to you

because I love books as well. Oh, amazing. We all love books. We can have a lovely relationship.

So, yes, I do a podcast called The Rest is History normally and a long-serving producer on the Restis

History, Tabitha, and I would often talk about books when we're on tour and when we're preparing

the shows and stuff. And we did a mini-series for our Restis History club members, our subscribers,

all about books. So we'd looked at The Hobbit and we looked at Dracula and some

kind of great classics. Anyway, those went down quite well. So we decided to launch it as a

standalone show. And actually, our second episode is a book partly about science. So it's a book

called Never Let Me Go by Casio Ishiguro. So it's a book in which it turns out, this is a massive

spoiler by the way, so your listeners should prepare themselves. So the narrator is one of a group

of children who have effectively been created as clones to be organ donors. And so the book is asking deep questions about what it is to be

human and what it is to be a clone and all of this kind of thing. Do they know that they've been

created for that purpose? When it starts, it looks like Kazuiz Shiguro has written a kind of classic

British boarding school story. And quite early on, so it's not a colossal spoiler. There is a moment when they're talking

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