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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Why we can't give up on persuasion

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.610.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Sean Illing is joined by Anand Giridharadas, author of The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. Together they discuss how polarity is a threat to our democracy, the organizing efforts that are effective, and why there's hope for a less divisive future in America. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites), author References: The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy by Anand Giridharadas (Penguin Random House, 202) Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World (Penguin Random House, 2022) Amanda Marcotte “Meet the woman behind Libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right’s outrage machine” by Taylor Lorenz (The Washington Post, Apr. 19th, 2022) Anat Shenker-Osorio People’s Action Institute Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area. Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:57.3

was influenced by the Lord of the Rings. They did a transformation from like a glamorous 1950s

1:03.9

on Janu to golem and did the lip sync with both golem and sneagle fighting and then I perform

1:13.6

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1:20.3

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1:24.7

We live in a divided country. We all know that, but we've always lived in a divided country.

1:33.9

What makes the past several years so uniquely frustrating is how every story, every major event

1:40.6

immediately collapses into another partisan squabble. Everything, and I mean everything, is polarizing.

1:48.3

They're pushing this woke liberal agenda and they're deciding who could do it. Today,

1:52.8

Bud Light facing some backlash over its partnership with a trans influencer.

1:57.1

An Obama appointed John Jean Missouri as ordering teachers to pay over $300,000 in legal fees

2:03.6

for going against the school district's mandatory anti-racism training.

2:08.3

So from representative Jones, we were expelled because we were resisting the status quo that said

2:12.4

the NRA deserves to write legislation and Tennessee.

2:17.2

It's hard to hear headlines like that and believe anything like a middle ground exists.

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