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Why voting to release Epstein files is 'emotional' for Rep. Nancy Mace

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

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The House of Representatives approved a bill Tuesday to force the Department of Justice to release all of its files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein died by suicide in a federal jail in 2019. South Carolina Republican Rep. Nancy Mace explains why she's voting to release the files. 

Then, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is making his first visit to the White House after the 2018 killing of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi. NPR's Danielle Kurtzeleben tells us more. 

And, on the ground in war-torn Sudan, aid groups say the malnutrition crisis is the worst since the start of the civil war more than two years ago. Myriam Laaroussi with Doctors Without Borders explains what her team is seeing and what they are doing to help.

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0:00.0

WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:06.2

Tonight is the vote for every woman who's been traumatized by abuse.

0:10.7

And it's a huge day in the country, not just for them, but for every one of us who want justice.

0:16.2

We're getting it.

0:16.7

The House votes to release the Epstein files.

0:29.4

Thank you. The House votes to release the Epstein files. It's Tuesday, November 18th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WVR.

0:35.0

I'm Chris Bentley.

0:39.0

Today on the show, Saudi Arabia's crown prince visits the White House, his first visit since

0:45.6

the murder of a journalist at a Saudi consulate seven years ago. Also, civil war has shattered

0:53.1

Sudan. We'll hear from a doctor on the front lines in Darfur.

0:58.2

But first, files from the Justice Department's sex trafficking investigation of Jeffrey Epstein are one important step closer to seeing the light of day after a vote today in the House of Representatives.

1:12.1

President Trump lobbied some Republicans in Congress last week to try to keep the documents hidden, and he relented

1:17.2

on Sunday after it became clear that the vote was likely to pass. Congresswoman Nancy Mace

1:23.2

is one of the four Republicans who joined Democrats early on in this process to call for the release of those files.

1:30.3

And earlier today, before the vote was taken, she spoke to Jane Clayson.

1:35.4

Well, number one, I want to thank the Epstein victims, every single woman who had the courage to come forward.

1:43.7

I personally know that the toll that this

1:46.4

takes on someone's life, but they are a vessel not just for the justice they're seeking for

1:51.9

themselves, but they're a vessel for the justice that millions of other women across the country

1:56.5

are also seeking because most of us never get this day. Most of us never get the opportunity

2:03.8

to face our accuser, let alone see them prosecutors, see them put in jail or in prison. And so I see

2:10.4

this as a very symbolic day. And it's a very emotional day for me because of the fight that this symbolizes not just for them, but for so many of us, that I'll never get justice.

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