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I think the idea that the White House, I think they want to go back to this time where it was kind of unclear when they would release the files before they finally closed the case and ignited so much anger.

But I don't think that's going to work.

The Epstein files are going to come out.

What's in them and how much is redacted remains to be seen, but victims of sex trafficking are celebrating.

And Maga World is managing a bit of a revolt against President Trump.

Yeah. President Trump. It's Wednesday, November 19th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and

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I'm Chris Bentley.

Today on the show, two perspectives on what happens next now that Congress has demanded the Justice Department release its documents and recordings from the sex trafficking investigation of Jeffrey Epstein.

In a few minutes, we'll hear from a survivor of Epstein's abuse.

But first, the Maga Rea rebellion over President Trump's dramatic reversal

on the Epstein files. Trump had a long relationship with Epstein, who died in jail in 2019,

and his name comes up in many of the documents from Epstein's estate recently made public by Congress.

But Trump denies any connection to or involvement with the sex trafficking ring run by Epstein

and his associate, Gulenne Maxwell. As a candidate, Trump repeatedly promised to release the

government's files on their cases. But in the weeks leading up to the vote that passed Tuesday,

he tried to pressure lawmakers to vote no and keep those files hidden.

He put particular pressure on Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green,

even calling her a traitor for pushing for the files release.

She held a news conference yesterday with Epstein's victims.

Let me tell you what a traitor is.

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