Why Unrelenting Epstein Leaks Terrify Trump: Wolff

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🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to dig into the one fear that continues to dog Donald Trump, the lingering specter of Jeffrey Epstein. As new oversight leaks reveal redacted names and unreleased evidence, Wolff explains why the Epstein files continue to rattle Trump and shape his thinking. They explore how this aversion affects his decisions, fuels his late-night rants, and exposes cracks in Trumpworld’s loyalty. Why do Epstein’s secrets haunt Trump, and what do his international allies and enemies know?

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0:00.0	But let's go back to Epstein.
0:01.8	Let us go back to Epstein.
0:03.9	So never forget.
0:04.8	Okay, let's go back to Epstein.
0:06.2	And the emails that came out from the Oversight Committee also last Friday.
0:11.2	So Trump was over here trying to do this with Zelensky.
0:14.8	Meanwhile, the Oversight Committee were distributing emails.
0:19.5	Yeah, and I'm not sure where they come from. I think this must have
0:24.3	been a leak from somewhere. I mean, and you can't tell who's leaking. The Democrats are leaking,
0:31.1	the Republicans are leaking. So what is inside Trump's head when the... So there's Trump.
0:38.3	He's got Putin.
0:39.4	He's got Zelensky on the line.
0:41.4	He's shouting at Zelensky.
0:43.5	And all the time, there is the drumbeat of the Oversight Committee and the Epstein farce.
0:49.8	All of this is better.
0:51.4	Everything else that is going on, good or bad, shut down, Ukraine, Zelensky, the peace making, peace collapsing.
1:04.4	All of this is better for Trump than Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
1:12.3	Okay, so we haven't even discussed where we're going today.
1:16.9	Because I'm not saying that anymore.
1:19.5	Okay, you're not saying that we're going inside Trump's head.
1:22.5	But I will say, again, that we do go inside Trump's head because that is the only place from which you can really understand what is going on today in American politics.
1:35.4	You can't understand it from the floor of Congress.
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