Why Trying to Calm Down is Stressing You Out with Dr. Rebecca Heiss
Abel James Show
Abel James Bascom
4.7 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
You're certainly not alone.
Counterintuitively, instead of beating yourself up for not being able to calm down and eliminate stress altogether, consciously taking on more stress can actually make you perform better.
It's strange but true: "When you need something done, give it to a busy person."
Stress doesn't need to paralyze you or bowl you over, it's a natural energy that can be directed and used to your advantage. The problem is that our ancient brains can't keep up with modern threats.
As our guest puts it: tigers of the savanna have transformed into a snarling inbox.
Since avoiding stress is impossible, what if we stopped trying to "reduce stress" and instead learned to open the floodgates, harnessing our natural energy to use stress as a source of strength, focus and momentum?
In this age of unprecedented technological change and and crippling career insecurity, how can we conquer fear and regain clarity and confidence in the face of uncertainty?
Today we're here with Dr. Rebecca Heiss, a stress physiologist, researcher, keynote speaker, and author of the new book Springboard. Her work has been called transformative by the National Science Foundation, and after this episode, you’ll understand why.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- Why telling a stressed out person to calm down is the worst possible thing you can do
- Why stress management workshops make us more stressed
- How rugged individualism is fueling a stress epidemic, especially for men
- Why adults desperately need more play, community, and shared challenge — and how that protects your brain
- Why we’re more afraid of snakes, spiders, and public speaking than the tiny daily choices that quietly steal years off our lives
- And much more...
Find Dr. Rebecca Heiss and her work at:
- Website: RebeccaHeiss.com
- Book: Springboard
- Facebook: @drrebeccaheiss
- X: @DrRebeccaHeiss
- Instagram: @drrebeccaheiss
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO3XmakQmJX0z0TbSfr3agg
- LinkedIn: @rebeccaheiss
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, this is Abel James, and thanks so much for joining us on the show. |
| 0:04.0 | Are you feeling a little stressed lately? You're certainly not alone. |
| 0:07.0 | But what if trying to calm down and avoid stress is the very thing that's keeping you stuck and miserable? |
| 0:13.0 | Looking back, have you ever noticed that the moments you're most proud of in life are often the ones that also stressed you out the most? Counterintuitively, instead of beating yourself up for not being able to calm down and eliminate stress altogether, |
| 0:26.6 | consciously taking on more stress can actually help you perform better. |
| 0:30.6 | Stress doesn't need to paralyze us or bowl us over. |
| 0:33.6 | It's a natural energy that can be directed to our advantage. The problem is that our |
| 0:38.3 | ancient brains can't keep up with modern threats. As this week's guest puts it, |
| 0:43.4 | tigers of the Savannah have transformed into a snarling inbox. I can definitely relate to that. |
| 0:48.8 | Since avoiding stress is just about impossible. What if we stopped trying to reduce stress |
| 0:53.6 | and instead learned how to open the floodgates, |
| 0:56.4 | harnessing our natural energy to use stress |
| 0:58.5 | as a source of strength, focus, and momentum? |
| 1:01.4 | In this age of unprecedented technological change |
| 1:04.2 | and crippling career insecurity, |
| 1:06.2 | how can we conquer fear and regain clarity and confidence |
| 1:09.6 | in the face of uncertainty? |
| 1:11.5 | Today we're here with Dr. Rebecca Heiss, a stressed physiologist, researcher, keynote speaker, |
| 1:17.1 | and author of the new book, Springboard. Her book has been called Transformative by the National |
| 1:21.9 | Science Foundation, and after this episode, you'll understand why. But before we get there, |
| 1:26.6 | I just want to give a hearty congratulations to all of our Wild |
| 1:29.9 | Warriors who joined in and completed the 14-day Eat Wild Challenge in Club Wild with us. |
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