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Politico is reporting that some Republicans are worried about Donald Trump's reaction to his criminal conviction in Manhattan.

They say Trump is overly focused on using the verdict

to lather up his base and should be more concerned about the likelihood that it could alienate

swing voters. We think this gets at something essential about Trump and the MAGA movement itself,

that Trump and MAGA leaders cannot accept the very idea that their Trump-centric obsessions might be off-putting to swing voters.

Seeing these obsessions as a political liability is impossible for MAGA.

To help sort through all these pathologies, today we're talking to Washington Post reporter Isaac Armstrong,

author of a new book called Finish What We Started, the MAGA movement's

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