Well, let's continue the conversation as our next guest has written and spoken out against the Trump tariffs for over 10 years.

Steven Schmidt ran Republican campaigns and war rooms, including those for George W. Bush and John McCain's presidential bids.

He has since left the Republican Party and has found it a substack called The Warning with

Steve Schmidt. Steve Schmidt, thank you for joining us.

My pleasure. Happy to be with you. So as I said, you have written and essentially come to

Canada's defense by criticizing Trump's languaging around making this country the 51st state.

Why did you decide to do that?

It's a moral outrage, and every American should feel outraged by it. Canada is a charter member

of the nations that rebuilt the world from the ashes.

Canadian boys landed on Juno Beach next to American and British and French and Poles and Dutch

and all of the members of the United Nations that together came to a redwood grove in mere woods outside of San Francisco to

remember the life of Franklin Roosevelt, and the plaque there commemorates it in his life

on behalf of the United Nations that he founded as an apostle of peace.

Roosevelt and McKenzie Kang, the Canadian Prime Minister, late at night in the 1944-1945 timeframe

or imagining the world to be, and Roosevelt says to him that he hopes it will endure for as long as everybody who is alive

on the day the war is won is still alive.

The youngest of those people are 80 years old.

What Donald Trump is smashing is the Atlantic Charter,

is the agreements in Quebec, in Tehran, and Yalta that laid the foundation for the greatest

period of prosperity in world history. And as an American, one of the great blessings we have is the

great nation to our North that we are intertwined with by family connection, by blood

connection, by sacrifice. And Canada, the oldest bilingual democracy in the world, the second largest landmass in the world, is a great force for good.

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