This is the warning. I'm Steve Schmidt. Welcome. I'm here with McKay Coppins,

who is an Atlantic Magazine staff writer. He is the author of a great biography of Willard Mitt Romney,

the former governor of Massachusetts, the United States Senator from Utah, the 2012 Republican nominee

for President of the United States. The name of that book is Romney, The Reckoning,

and he has written recently for the Atlantic, a long-form profile of James Murdoch, the Murdoch children,

about the Murdoch family, all of the considerations of the children with regarding the news empire that has, in my view, done so much damage to the country,

to concepts of truth. And what will happen to it as the inevitable happens, and Rupert Murdoch passes from this world to the next,

sometime before not too very long at age 95.

We have McKay Coppins with us who,

I just want to say to everybody that he is an extremely talented writer,

probably, in my view, one of the two or three, very, very best of the

best long form magazine, profile writers of the country, in the country.

You go back and look at a masterpiece of writing for those of you who

are interested in writing as a form of expression and read his profile, I think, in 2020

with Steve Bannon at Steve Bannon's headquarters on the night of the Biden election,

extraordinary portrait of the MAGA movement at a low moment. But I'm really thrilled

today to have McKay Coppins joining me, one of the best by the book you'll learn a lot about

a compelling figure over this last decade and a half who is is a deeper person than you may suspect

but with no further ado McKay Coppins, welcome.

Thank you, Steve.

And thank you for that very kind, too kind introduction.

But I'm glad to be here.

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