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The Daily Beast Podcast

Why Trump Legal Threat Against Me Is Empty: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles as Trump predictably lashes out in the fallout from the Epstein files—targeting Wolff as his latest nemesis, threatening lawsuits he can’t afford to file, and insisting the real conspiracy is against him. They unpack Trump’s rambling, defensive response to questions about Epstein flights, island denials, and the newly resurfaced claim—now echoed in official documents—that Epstein introduced Melania to Trump, a detail Trump world once tried to bury with billion-dollar legal threats. From Bill Gates and elite denial to Epstein’s role as an information broker, the conversation widens to Trump’s current obsession: federalizing elections, re-litigating 2020, and quietly laying the groundwork to undermine the 2026 midterms. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is, I think, the third or fourth time over the last 10 years that he has threatened to sue me.

0:06.7

So he has never sued me.

0:09.1

Also, he can't sue me.

0:10.2

What is he going to do?

0:11.2

Is he going to sit for a deposition?

0:13.8

Is he going to answer all of the questions that then I would have the right to ask him about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

0:22.4

In the release of these documents by the federal government, there is a document here that says

0:27.9

Jeffrey Epstein introduced you to your wife. Do you want to discuss that, Mr. Trump?

0:37.3

Michael. Joanna. Well, well. Trump.

0:37.9

Michael.

0:40.0

Joanna.

0:42.7

Well, well, well, well.

0:44.9

We sit here three times. We were bound to get to this point.

0:46.7

We were bound to get to this point.

0:48.3

First of all, this is very nice.

0:49.5

Where is it from?

0:50.0

What's the label?

0:51.6

Anderson and Shepherd.

0:52.5

Oh, it's always Anderson and Shepard.

0:54.7

Well, three times a week we go.

0:56.7

Where do we go?

0:59.9

We go inside Donald Trump's head.

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