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The Daily Beast Podcast

Why Trump is so Epically Bad at Negotiations

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.68.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

John Bolton, Donald Trump's National Security Advisor who witnessed up close why he is so bad at making deals, joins Joanna Coles for an inside look at what it’s really like being in the room with Donald Trump. Looking at Trump's first term Putin meeting in Helsinki, where briefing papers went unread as soccer played in the background, Bolton reveals a portrait of a president who prizes optics over substance, public relations over policy. With Vladimir Putin exploiting every opening, Xi Jinping taking notes, and Trump’s envoy stumbling into Russian disinformation, Bolton exposes the dangerous mix of ego, improvisation, and manipulation at the heart of America’s foreign policy.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I briefed him on strategic arms issues and negotiations with the Russia while we were flying

0:05.3

on Air Force One. He was in his cabin watching a FIFA soccer match. I had to compete for attention

0:11.1

with that. I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast, not to be confused with

0:18.1

inside Trump's head. That's our podcast with Michael Wolf, which goes out on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We're recording this on Monday morning as Donald Trump gets ready to meet President Zelensky and, of course, his band of European leaders that are traveling with him. But what can it be like to be in that room with Donald Trump? What is it like trying

0:38.0

to brief him for such an incredibly important meeting? Well, we're going to be talking to a man

0:44.4

who has tried to brief him, despite the fact that at the time when he was actually trying to brief

0:50.4

Donald Trump for the Helsinki summit with Vladimir Putin, Trump was actually on a FIFA game and not really interesting.

0:58.9

Just fascinating detail to come. But we have really no time to waste. It's a historic day. And we have a

1:06.7

president who's made it clear that he's completely uninterested in what the American

1:11.5

intelligence community has to say, because his personal relationships trump everything.

1:16.9

So let's get into it with former national security advisor and, of course, ambassador to the UN,

1:22.4

John Bolton.

1:25.8

Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us.

1:28.3

Go ahead and do it.

1:29.0

We're very keen to get your experience of what an earth it can be like being in the room with Donald Trump at one of these summits.

1:37.3

But first, I have to ask you, what was it like waking up this morning to discover the president had truth socialed about you, saying that

1:46.1

you're one of the reasons why this war hasn't come to an end? I'm going to quote, he said,

1:51.8

this war can be ended now, but stupid people like Chris Murphy, obviously the senator from Connecticut,

1:58.1

John Bolton and others make it much harder to do so. What is it like waking

2:02.4

up to a truth social like that? Well, it's pretty common in my case. I'm glad the president's still

2:09.2

thinking about me. It shows he's listening anyway. But, you know, if he can't stand to heat,

2:15.8

he should get out of the kitchen. Obviously, you were there at the Helsinki Summit.

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