Trump-Putin Meet Was Way Worse Than We Knew: Wolff

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🗓️ 20 August 2025

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What really happened when Donald Trump met Vladimir Putin behind closed doors? In this episode of 'Inside Trump’s Head', cohosts Joanna Coles and Trump biographer Michael Wolff unravel Trump’s odd displays of loyalty to Putin and the secretive negotiations over Ukraine that alarmed U.S. allies. They examine Trump’s fixation on flattery, his pursuit of a Nobel Peace Prize, and the way Putin’s KGB-honed tactics played against Trump’s insecurities. From the bizarre secrecy surrounding their one-on-one sessions to the global risks of Trump’s concessions, this is a revealing look at how the Trump–Putin relationship reshaped world politics and exposed the vulnerabilities inside Trump’s head. And Wolff drops an extraordinary new revelation about a meeting Jeffrey Epstein had with Vladimir Putin. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Over the last few months, Trump biographer Michael Wolfe and I have been spalunking through the minefield inside.
0:06.6	Can I change this?
0:09.0	Yes. Chronicle.
0:10.3	Chronicle. Okay, Trump, chronicler. I'm not really a biographer.
0:13.9	Okay.
0:14.3	Over the last few months, Trump chronicler, Michael Wolfe and I have been spalunking through the minefield.
0:21.0	Do you want to say spulunking?
0:22.7	I like spulunking. It's a technical cave term.
0:25.4	It's a show-off word. Maybe it's a British word, but another reason you shouldn't use it.
0:32.0	I would just go navigating.
0:35.0	Over the last few months, Trump, chronicler, Michael Wolfe and I haven't been
0:39.3	spulunking through the minefield inside Donald Trump's head. We've been navigating it. And you've
0:45.7	responded in your thousands flooding us with comments, with questions, with theories, with
0:50.7	conspiracy theories. So now it's official. Twice a week, we're going inside Donald Trump's
0:57.7	head. Michael will be our unflinching guide as we map the darkness, the chaos, the electric
1:04.4	jolts of ego and paranoia and illuminate why Trump does what he does.
1:11.4	Subscribe wherever you get your podcast, and if you're already on the Daily Beast feed,
1:15.6	stay put.
1:16.3	The episodes drop twice a week on Tuesdays and Thursday nights, and trust me, it's only going
1:22.6	to get crazier.
1:23.5	And also today, something I've been promising for a while, we're actually going to dive into your comments.
1:28.9	We're going to read some. We're going to argue about some. And many of you have written in asking what you think, we think, or Michael specifically thinks, about Trump's mental health.
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