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The Playbook With David Meltzer

Why Top Performers Love The Hard Part

The Playbook With David Meltzer

David Meltzer, Entrepreneur.com

Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.91.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, I sit down with Sequel co-founders Matt Smith and Alex Macdonald, who bring together the worlds of professional sports, entrepreneurship, and early-stage investing. Matt shares how discipline, devotion, and constant self-improvement carried him from the lower levels of English football to the top tier, while Alex talks about building companies through rejection, resilience, and relentless curiosity. We discuss why the best athletes and entrepreneurs are often the first ones in and the last ones out, how identity can shift after success, and why fulfillment comes from the pursuit itself rather than the outcome. It’s a conversation about mindset, purpose, and making the most of every minute.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Dave Meltzer with Entrepreneurs, The Playbook. I am here at the pro athlete community

0:05.5

with two professional athletes themselves, at least somewhat. And as we're moving forward,

0:13.1

but this community is essential. It's so exciting to be here because nothing happens

0:17.6

unless you have a community of people, a culture of people. It's more than just a company of people.

0:22.9

And both of you utilize culture and community to effectuate what you do, how you do,

0:31.1

and who you do business with.

0:32.8

And so I want to introduce Alex McDonald and Matt Smith together.

0:36.7

Alex, welcome to the playbook.

0:39.0

Great to be on. And my friend Matt, welcome as well. So both of you have a different type of

0:47.1

evolution towards business. Give me an idea of what skills, knowledge, and desire that you've

0:53.9

utilized from sports

0:55.1

into your businesses today.

0:58.3

I think Matt can give the sports backgrounds.

1:01.6

Yeah.

1:01.9

You've got the best odds.

1:02.7

While being one of the most famous footballers is probably good.

1:05.3

So, you know, from my perspective, I was always intrigued.

1:13.0

So I moved into the investment world,

1:18.7

and particularly the private markets when I turned about 24, 25. And I was, it was really led by curiosity. I was really fascinated with the crossover of mindset between founders and athletes.

1:25.5

You know, I think there's a tremendous amount of cross-server.

1:27.6

I think they share a significant amount of the same traits in terms of the ability to defy

1:32.5

the odds and what comes with that, the sacrifice and the dedication, the grit and the, you know,

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