Coming up on the Mark Devine show, our instincts might be to fight discomfort.

So I'm going to fight against it.

I'm going to tell myself to stop thinking or feeling this, and that's actually going

to make it grow.

All right, Mark Devine, and this is the Mark Devine show.

Super stoked to have you here with me today on this show.

I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the world's most inspirational

and compassionate and resilient leaders.

I love talking to folks from all walks of life, and each episode of all is still the remarkable

experience of my guests from stoic philosophers to start an entrepreneur as to, you may be

sales even.

And I try to find actionable insights that help you build the most compassionate, courageous,

and powerful life for me on.

I'm excited to have as my guest today, Juliet Lamcune, she's a third person author of

the book, who you calling crazy, the journey from stigma therapy, Juliet's a national board

certified counselor and therapist who's passionate about ending the stigma around mental health.

She's working normalize and elevate positive dialogue around therapy.

She's the founder and owner of Sun Counseling Wellness, North Carolina, and she works with

clients with a multitude of processing concerns, anxiety, depression, grief, loss, and she

specializes in ENDR, which is something we've talked about a few times.

She also hosts a podcast called, Who You Calling Crazy?

And I've been featured on multiple TV shows and publications, and I'm super stoked to

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