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Why the Zelensky Deepfake Failed

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The FBI warned that Russia would use deepfakes to support its invasion of Ukraine. Are they missing the real threat?


Guest: Noah Giansiracusa, professor of math and data science at Bentley University.


Host: Seth Stevenson


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1:25.0

The video shows Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky speaking into a camera,

1:35.2

telling Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms and surrender to the Russians.

1:39.6

Which never actually happened. This was a phony clip meant to fool people into thinking Zelensky

1:45.0

had given up the fight. But the funny thing was it was pretty impotent. It didn't work,

1:49.7

it didn't trick anyone, it was detected very quickly and debunked very quickly. Noa Jansi

1:55.3

or Kusa is a professor of math and data science at Bentley University. And the author of a book

2:00.0

about how algorithms can both create and prevent misinformation like deepfakes. He thinks this

2:05.6

particular deepfake effort was a little silly because it was easily refuted. Even to the naked eye,

2:11.0

it wasn't all that convincing. And right after the video appeared, the real Zelensky made a statement

2:16.0

assuring Ukrainians his resolve was strong. And so, in this case, the deepfake was immediately

2:21.6

thwarted. For some, the fact that this video was so simple to dismiss suggests that deepfakes

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