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sake, search the economist. I'm John King and this is all over the map. Today, we return to Wisconsin

and to Michigan to the outskirts of two once booming Midwestern industrial cities.

These are both considered must-win states for Kamala Harris,

and the race, look at the numbers, effectively tied in both of them.

Today, we're going to hear from two voters

who've made up their minds about this election.

They give you a very clear picture of why this

race is anything but easy to call. We're in the final days here now, a little over a week out.

It's a cliche, but every vote does count, especially in the battleground states. And the math is

really complicated, the most complicated in the 10 times I've done this, 10 times I've covered presidential elections. The math comes down to the moods and the votes of voters like these.

The energy is different. It's a lot different from when we were here last time.

Eric Jones is an entrepreneur in Milwaukee, does a little bit of real estate, does a few other things as well.

We've sat down with him several times over the past year.

Eric has an ear to the ground.

He's constantly popping up in the community, talking to everybody.

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