Hey, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with my son Spencer Claven,

no relation.

He is associate editor of the Claremont

Review of Books and the author of Light of the Mind, Light of the World, which if you haven't

read it, read it. It's a wonderful, wonderful book about science and religion, probably the best

book about science and religion out there. I want to talk to Spencer about something that

conservatives don't talk about half enough, which is high culture.

The classics, our literary and philosophical heritage going back to the Bible and the Greeks and

the Romans and all the rest. And when I think about this, there's this old joke that comes into

my mind about a woman who gets married and she plans to become a homemaker. And she and her new husband get in the car

with the cans tied to the back and the just married sign and they start driving away. And as

they're driving away, the woman leans out the window and she shouts to her mother, hey, mom, how do

you cook? And I sometimes feel when I'm talking to conservatives that they're the same way about

this. They learn, they go to college, they learn about business, they go to learn political science,

maybe they learn about STEM or whatever.

Then they go around and watch Star Wars movies, and then suddenly when they find the

culture is collapsing around them, they're like, hey, mom, what book should I read?

You know, they're like suddenly want to know how to quickly, you know, inject culture

into their arms when really culture is something that you have to be a

cultured person. It has to be a part of your life. So as I talk about it on my show all the time,

we're in a moment of vibe shift where I think hopefully we're about to reclaim the culture in a lot

of ways. And I think in order to do that, we should know who we are, where we came from, and why

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