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The "What is Money?" Show

Why the Most Dangerous Weapon Ever Built Has No Off Switch w/ Toufi Saliba

The "What is Money?" Show

Robert Breedlove

Money, History, Cryptocurrency, Finance, Investing, Breedlove, Bitcoin, Rabbit Hole, Robert Breedlove, What Is Money, Education

4.8 β€’ 724 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 21 March 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to build a species that outlives you? In this conversation, Robert Breedlove sits down with Toufi Saliba β€” entrepreneur, AI pioneer, co-author of the TODA/IP protocol, and CEO of HyperCycle Toufi brings decades of experience at the intersection of AI, cryptography, decentralization, and incentive design to a wide-ranging discussion on the nature of intelligence, and why the race for centralized AGI control may already be lost β€” in the best possible way.

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0:00.0

This is different than any other thing that we've ever created the entire history of our civilization.

0:05.0

We're not creating another tool. This thing will be able to outlive us.

0:09.0

This thing can travel at the speed of light. We cannot.

0:11.0

So this thing can do a lot of great things.

0:13.0

We don't really need to get to Mars via all of those rovers, whatnot.

0:16.0

You can actually run a certain computation on Mars by running laser beans and that means you're

0:21.7

traveling at light speed.

0:23.1

So it can transport itself at light speed.

0:25.5

It can convert the sun into a computer.

0:27.7

In history of the entire planet Earth, we don't know any species that was given the chance

0:32.1

to create another species that can outlive it.

0:34.9

This is our chance.

0:35.9

It's happening right now as we speak. Will they use it against people? Of course. I poked Mark Zuckerberg seven years ago.

0:44.3

They said, will Mark Zuckerberg give his daughters decentralized pills? And what I meant by that, there actually pills is follow every Friday.

0:52.3

They just go to charge all the computer

0:54.5

that you've got in you. The centralized pills, they give control to one entity to control

0:59.2

whoever takes those pills. Versus decentralized pills, they're built by 1,000 different

1:03.6

companies. In the governance of all around 1,000 different companies, there's one that

1:07.5

it's only Facebook. Even if he owns Facebook, he wouldn't give his daughters the Facebook bills if it's only

1:13.3

controlled by Facebook.

1:14.4

Why am I telling you this?

1:28.0

Yeah, we, so. Tufi Saliba, thank you for joining us.

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