Why The Johnny Depp-Amber Heard Trial Should Worry You
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 9 June 2022
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Johnny Depp won his defamation case against Amber Heard, after her 2018 Washington Post article in which she wrote: "I became a public figure representing domestic abuse." But what will the legacy of this trial - and particularly the coverage of it, including on social media - be? Will this fuel an already escalating backlash against the #MeToo movement, in which women who had suffered sustained sexual harassment and violence from men had a moment in which a consensus grew that their voices should be heard? Whatever you think of the verdict, where does this trial - not least the way it was covered - leave women?
We are joined by brilliant journalist Lucia Osborne-Crowley, who has covered the trial from the start.
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| 0:00.0 | And the herd and the Johnny Depp trial, the libel trial. |
| 0:11.4 | Now what happened here was a few years ago and the herd wrote a piece for the Washington |
| 0:17.0 | Post in which she wrote two years ago became a public figure representing domestic abuse. |
| 0:23.2 | Now it didn't actually mention Johnny Depp in the article, but his lawyer said it was |
| 0:27.4 | about him and his defamatory and as a consequence, sued Amber Heard. |
| 0:33.1 | Now it was a jury libel trial and they found in favour of Johnny Depp, I mean we're talking |
| 0:42.8 | $50 million, I mean it was also, there was one ruling in favour of Amber Heard, that |
| 0:50.3 | one of the agents of Johnny Depp had defamed Heard. |
| 0:53.7 | Now let's just have a quick look at a little bit of that verdict. |
| 0:59.0 | All right, Mr. Four person, is this the verdict of the jury? |
| 1:03.0 | All right, is it unanimous? |
| 1:05.2 | Thank you, sir. |
| 1:13.6 | In civil case number CL 2019 2911, Mr. Depp's claim against Ms. Heard. |
| 1:22.8 | One, as to the statement appearing in the online op-ed entitled Amber Heard, I spoke up |
| 1:29.8 | against sexual violence and faced our culture's wrath, that has to change. |
| 1:35.3 | In the Washington Post's online edition, quote, I spoke up against sexual violence and |
| 1:41.7 | faced our culture's wrath, that has to change, end quote. Do you find that Mr. Depp has proven |
| 1:48.9 | all the elements of defamation? Answer? Yes. |
| 1:54.8 | Now we've got the brilliant writer, Lucia Osborne Crowley, who's tweets on this, I have read |
| 2:01.6 | all the way through the trial. So it was just, you know, absolutely brilliant reporting of what |
| 2:08.0 | was actually happening. I didn't watch the trial myself. So it was brilliant to be able to read |
| 2:13.9 | somebody who watched it and went through all the evidence and is an all-round expert on the issue. |
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