From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Luke Jones.

Donald Trump did not want the US government to release the files they had on the dead paedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

And yet, both chambers of Congress have

voted to force the Justice Department to publish files from the investigation into the late

sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. He's been forced into a U-turn by some members of his own movement,

some of the loudest and proudest MAGA voices in Congress,

like Marjorie Taylor Green.

I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for five, no, actually six years for.

Let me tell you what a traitor is.

A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.

A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America

and Americans like the women standing behind me.

Is this one political breakup on one issue?

Or is it emblematic of a larger schism between Trump and his base?

The story today, how the Epstein files split mager.

At time of recording, George, Donald Trump is about to, at least he said he's going to, sign a bill into law on the Epstein Files, the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

Before we get into how all of this happened, how consequential a moment do you think this is for Donald Trump?

Well, he's suffered a defeat in Congress, and that's kind of sapped his authority a little bit because make no bones about it, he has been resisting the release of the Epstein files for

months and months and months.

George Grills is our man in Washington, D.C. He has interviewed Margie Taylor Green and

he's followed the twists and about turns of the Epstein file drama in Congress.

You know, he could have released these files at any point. It's his decision not to release them up

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