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The Eurointelligence Podcast

Why the ECB is heading for trouble - 29 October 2021

The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

Geopolitics, Recovery Fund, Fiscal Union, Ecb, Italy, News, Politics, Germany, Government, France, European Integration, Political Risk, Uk, China, Trade, Spain, Netherlands, European Union, Brexit, Economics, Eu-china, Business, Political Union, Political Economy, Transatlantic Relations, Eurozone, European Politics, Eu, Banking

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🗓️ 29 October 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Our team discusses monetary policy, labour shortages, and a curious phenomenon in Italy - mass resignation of workers.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the latest Eurointelligence podcast. I'm Wolfgang Munchau and with me are Susanne Muncheng and Jack Smith.

0:09.1

Today we want to talk about monetary policy. The ECB has yesterday had a meeting of its governing council and while it did not change monetary parameters, the purchase programs or the interest rates,

0:25.8

it signaled a change in language, a change that it is at least an acknowledgement that it is now

0:33.6

more concerned about inflation than what appeared to be the case a month or two months ago.

0:39.6

The language used to be that inflation was transitory. It's now contemporary. This reminds me a

0:46.1

little bit of the time when John Cleet Treciated, fine-tuned the language when he was president

0:51.5

of the ECB and used lots of code words that had certain signals

0:55.9

with markets. I don't think we're back to the code word period, but there is clearly a shift in

1:01.8

language. And as Christine Lagarde said, they've been talking about nothing but inflation during the

1:07.2

meeting. They're still not alarmed. I would probably say that I'm more alarmed than they are.

1:11.6

You know, I'm still sort of in the 50-50 camp on inflation.

1:14.6

I believe there is a risk that inflation might prove persistent.

1:18.6

We're hearing from industry sources that it might.

1:21.6

Then again, there is the possibility that higher energy prices have a recessionary impact on the economy. It reduces

1:29.4

real earnings of people and that they might therefore reduce their demand for goods and prices

1:34.9

might not rise as much as possible. These are counteracting effects in the economy that need to

1:40.8

play out over the next few years. But I would be very cautious at this stage

1:45.6

to rule out the possibility of higher inflation because inflation is to a large extent a global

1:51.4

phenomenon these days. This is also a point where I disagree with Christine Lagarde that she,

1:56.5

in her assertion that the Eurozone is not a small open economy. Well, technically that's true.

2:01.0

It's not a small open economy.

2:02.6

But I think it is a large open economy as opposed to a large closed economy.

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