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Unchained

Why the Crypto Industry Believes SEC Regulation by Enforcement Hurts US Consumers - Ep. 378

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Marisa Tashman, policy counsel at Blockchain Association, analyzes the US Securities and Exchange Commission’s (SEC) decision to name nine tokens as securities and investigate whether Coinbase lists securities. Show highlights:  why the SEC named tokens as securities in an insider trading case where no exchanges or token teams are listed as defendants  what happens if the Coinbase insider trading case is settled or goes to court why the SEC’s actions should be considered “regulation by enforcement”  whether there is any process to force the SEC to reveal its reasoning for calling a token a security why Marisa thinks the SEC is actively harming US investors with its crypto policy how Coinbase is handling the SEC’s investigation what Marisa thinks of Coinbase’s listing process why the Cynthia Lummis-led crypto regulatory framework is a good start what Marisa believes will happen in the crypto regulatory landscape in the near future Thank you to our sponsors! 1inch: https://1inch.io/ Crypto.com: https://crypto.onelink.me/J9Lg/unconfirmedcardearnfeb2021    Episode Links   Marisa Tashman https://twitter.com/mtash   Blockchain Association https://theblockchainassociation.org/    Coinbase SEC investigation into listing unregistered tokens: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-26/coinbase-faces-sec-investigation-over-cryptocurrency-listings SEC insider trading case: https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-127 Coinbase does not list securities blog post: https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-does-not-list-securities-end-of-story-e58dc873be79  Coinbase petition: https://www.sec.gov/rules/petitions/2022/petn4-789.pdf    SEC Regulation by Enforcement Response CFTC Commissioner: ​​https://twitter.com/CarolineDPham/status/1550159347984044033 Lindsay Lin: https://twitter.com/lindsayxlin/status/1552320370019106822?s=21&t=4OaAjw3r8NlH23ppWiVK1w  Jake Chervinsky: https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1550515627961589762?s=20&t=gGwDPAJzZXSu6Gwc9agDOg  Hester Peirce: https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/05/03/hester-peirce-pushes-back-against-secs-plans-to-nearly-double-crypto-enforcement-staff/  Matt Levine: https://twitter.com/matt_levine/status/1550202036570017792?s=20&t=e1g8U-V4K_ixd1vJoRc9gA  Chair Gary Gensler wanting crypto exchanges to register as securities exchanges: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-28/sec-chair-gensler-hardens-line-on-crypto-exchange-registration?sref=m9L277rN https://twitter.com/garygensler/status/1552700562533236739?s=21&t=mNENJd2qeQYkeFFdZqWUPA   Gillibrand x Lummis Crypto Regulatory Framework https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/-lummis-gillibrand-introduce-landmark-legislation-to-create-regulatory-framework-for-digital-assets  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Just a quick note before we begin.

0:02.2

On Thursday, SEC Chairman Gary Gensler released a video in which he said he's requested

0:07.8

the agency staff work with crypto exchanges so that they are, quote, regulated much like

0:13.4

security exchanges.

0:15.3

This video came out after I recorded my conversation with Marissa Tashman, which is why we don't

0:20.2

mention it.

0:21.2

I'll link to the video, however, in the show notes.

0:23.8

And now on to the show.

0:28.7

Hi, everyone.

0:30.5

Welcome to Unchained, your no-hype resource for all things crypto.

0:33.6

I'm your host, Laura Shin, author of The Crypto Beans.

0:37.4

I started covering crypto seven years ago, and as a senior editor at Forbes was the first

0:42.1

mainstream media reporter to cover cryptocurrency full-time.

0:45.3

This is the July 29th, 2022 episode of Unchained.

0:49.5

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1:14.2

Today's guest is Marissa Tashman, Policy Council at the Blockchain Association.

1:19.2

Welcome, Marissa.

1:20.2

Hi, Laura.

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