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The Indicator from Planet Money

Why the 30-year bond matters

The Indicator from Planet Money

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🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Last week, the U.S. Treasury held an auction for 30-year bonds. Some were worried no one would show up to buy these things! That didn't happen, but the 'long bond' isn't exactly thriving at the moment. Today on the show, we look back at why we have such a long maturity bond and why it might be a good idea to start paying attention to it going forward.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:02.0

This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Whalen Wong.

0:15.0

And I'm Patty Hirsch. The long bond dodged the bullet last week after investors stepped up in larger than expected numbers to...

0:21.3

Well, okay. I'm going to stop you right there, Patty. You go away on vacation and you come back stuffed with jargon.

0:27.5

Maybe you should start by just telling our listeners what the long bond is.

0:31.8

Sorry, yes. The long bond is the 30-year treasury bond. It's the longest maturity bond issued by the U.S.

0:38.0

government. And when you see it dodged a bullet, you're talking about that sale of 30-year

0:41.9

bonds that the Treasury held last week. I am indeed. Yeah, people were worried that because of the

0:46.0

way things have been a bit rocky in the economy recently, no one would actually show up to buy

0:50.2

the bond, which could trigger a rise in interest rates. That didn't happen, though.

0:55.9

It did not, I'm happy to say.

0:57.6

But it doesn't mean we're out of the woods.

0:59.8

There's still a lot of uncertainty out there.

1:04.6

And the way that the 30-year bond performs is a great indicator of how investors feel about the economy long-term.

1:06.2

It's actually a really interesting instrument with this fascinating history, and it's

1:10.3

kind of overlooked a lot of the

1:11.4

time, frankly.

1:12.4

But something tells me you're going to remedy that today.

1:16.0

I am indeed, and today on the show, the Genesis of the 30 Year, including the fact that

1:20.7

Charlie Chaplin made a movie about it. We'll learn why we have such a long maturity bond,

1:25.6

and why we should probably pay a lot more attention to it going forward.

1:29.9

That's coming up after the break.

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