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The Indicator from Planet Money

SALT-n-pessimism

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

It's ... Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news.

On today's episode: the Senate passes the GENIUS Act, the SALT cap might be DOA in the OBBB, and a gender split on the state of the economy.

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:02.2

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

0:13.9

I'm Whalen Wong.

0:15.2

And I'm Darren Woods.

0:16.4

Today, mingling with us once more, our Planet Money, Mucacho, the marvelous Mr. Kenny Malone.

0:23.6

Oh, please. Just, just Kenny Malone. Just, Mr. Kenny Malone was my no need for the honorifics.

0:30.2

It's not really true. Okay, yeah, that's right. Or do we actually need all the honorifics because it is Indicators of the Week.

0:39.3

On today's show, the Senate and Stable Coins, the salt cap sticking point,

0:45.4

and starkly split sentiments on the state of the economy.

0:49.5

That's all after the break.

0:53.6

It is Indicators of the Week, Daryan, here at first.

0:57.2

My indicator is $27.6 trillion.

1:01.1

That's a measure of how much people are using stable coins globally.

1:05.4

Last year, there was $27.6 trillion worth of trading, payments, and transfers on stable coins like Tether.

1:13.0

And I bring this up because the Senate has just passed a bill that might bring special regulation

1:17.8

for these cryptocurrencies for the first time.

1:20.6

Makes sense that there's so much money zipping through the blockchain that maybe some lawmakers

1:24.3

want to put some garb rails on.

1:25.9

Yes. And so a reminder of what stablecoins are.

1:29.4

They are cryptocurrencies whose value is pegged to something else, often the US dollar.

1:34.7

So unlike Bitcoin or ether, whose values fluctuate wildly, you are promised that when you buy

1:40.9

one of these cryptocurrencies, it'll stay basically the same.

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