Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Monday Monday's podcast where normally I'm inside of an

RV motorhome, but today I'm at the Zeta Global Live Conference.

We have over 2,000 CMOs and CEOs downstairs for different brands and executives.

One of them is sitting right across the table from me. So I want to make these special edition episodes. Normally these podcasts are around 30 to 40 minutes. These episodes are only 20 to 25 minutes because we're trying to go back to back to back. And there's a live event going downstairs. So the speakers, like my next guest, need to go over to get speaking on stage. As you guys know, we cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money,

how to give away to charity. This gentleman has not only done it himself, he's inspired thousands of athletes and executives to do the same thing out into the world. So without further ado, Chip, if you can give us a quick two-minute bio, so we get straight to the money. Sure. Great to be here. Chip Poussack, co-founder, CEO, pro athlete community.

It's like YPO for pro athletes. So it's education and mentoring for

pro athletes to help unlock their their long-term future. They're incredibly elite people that

candidly did not actually win because of their athletic ability. I know that sounds crazy.

You think, no, they're pro athletes. They actually won because of grit, rigor, drive, resilience,

and they just need exposure to new opportunities. And when they get done playing, if they're

going the right direction, it's amazing what they can accomplish. So started it three years ago.

The company that I started before that, when I was 37, I'm 54 now, when I was 37,

I started a company called 2U, one of the biggest online education companies in the world.

So I took a public, got it close to a billion in revenue, was a public CEO for 10 years. So

left to do this. And, you know, I really think long term, this will be the most important

thing that I do in my career.

Wow.

Why is it important for athletes to come together, to learn?

We have obviously heard that, you know, the statistic that 85% of NFL athletes end up going bankrupt within five years of leaving the league.

Whether that number is 74%, 92%, who knows the actual number, let's just use that as a general number. That's staggering. Even if it's 20, 30%, that would be staggering and sad. Talk us through why you decide to do it and why it's important for athletes to consider joining groups like this. You know, the community of people we serve, they're remarkable and people don't understand how challenging the setup is for them.

So when people hear the story of pro-athlet community, they tend to think of that ESPN show 30-for-30 broke, where it's like, oh, these guys made so much money and then they lose their money.

The challenge of being a pro-athlete, like you're so good at this particular thing, whether it's football or

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