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🗓️ 2 October 2025
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Family farms in America are slowly disappearing, with a 2022 USDA census reporting that America lost 142,000 farms over just five years. The average farmer in America is now nearly 60 years old.
But it’s not government subsidies that farmers need to stay afloat, says Joel Salatin. What small farmers really need is the freedom to innovate and sell directly to local consumers—without facing a morass of red tape, regulations, and mandates.
Salatin, co-owner of Polyface Farms in Virginia, is widely recognized as a leading pioneer of sustainable or regenerative farming practices that enrich the land, rather than depleting it.
Over the last half century, Salatin has seen his fair share of what he calls the “food police.” He discovered it was illegal to sell a couple dozen homemade pot pies at the farmers’ market without proving he had a certified $50,000 septic system; illegal to process his own meat without sending it to a licensed butcher; illegal for his 17-year-old apprentices to operate a cordless drill—even though they were legally allowed to drive a car; and illegal to build housing without a permit on his farm—an agricultural zone—for his highly popular farmer apprenticeship program.
The result? Small farmers have to fight for survival, factory farming wins, and America is less healthy, he says.
“In my lifetime I have watched this erosion of farmer access to retail dollars. Meanwhile, we’re seeing farmers go out of business hand over fist,” Salatin says.
What America really needs is a “Food Emancipation Proclamation,” he says.
Salatin is the author of 17 books, including “Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal: War Stories from the Local Food Front.”
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| 0:00.0 | Did you notice there's no flies, there's no smell, these are unvaccinated, unmedicated, |
| 0:05.0 | no pharmaceuticals, none of that. |
| 0:07.0 | In this episode, I sit down with farmer Joel Salatin. |
| 0:10.0 | He and his family owned Polyface Farms and he's the author of 17 books, |
| 0:15.0 | including Everything I Want to Do is Illegal, War Stories from the Local Food Front. |
| 0:19.0 | You can't have a porta- potty, so now you're at |
| 0:21.8 | $50,000 to put in a certified septic system in order to have a kitchen that passes compliance. |
| 0:28.4 | Salatin believes that what America desperately needs is a food emancipation proclamation. |
| 0:33.9 | Which basically says you and I can engage in a food transaction without the government's |
| 0:38.4 | permission. In my lifetime, I have watched this erosion of farmer access to retail dollars. |
| 0:46.1 | Meanwhile, we're seeing farmers go out of business hand over fist. The average farmer is now |
| 0:51.5 | 60 years old. So in the next 15 years, half of all America's |
| 0:55.8 | agriculture equity is going to change hands. The question is, is it all going to go to Vanguard, |
| 1:01.4 | Black Rock, Bill Gates, the Chinese? This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yankelly. |
| 1:08.4 | Joel Salatin, it's so good to have you on American Thought Leaders. |
| 1:12.0 | It's a privilege and an honor to be with you, Jan. |
| 1:14.4 | We're here in your milieu. |
| 1:16.2 | We hear at Pollyface Farm. |
| 1:17.7 | So let's see some of the really interesting things you've managed to do here on the farm. |
| 1:23.5 | Sure. |
| 1:24.0 | Let's take a little tour. |
| 1:33.3 | Yeah. Sure, let's take a little tour. Isn't this a wonderful venue? |
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