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Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson

Why Sleep Feels So Hard (and What Actually Helps) with Dr. Michael Breus (The Velvet)

Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson

iHeartPodcasts

Spirituality, Relationships, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.5927 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Sleep advice is everywhere—but if you’re someone who actually struggles with it, most of it can feel… useless.

Kelly sits down with Dr. Michael J. Breus—clinical psychologist, sleep specialist, and known to many as “The Sleep Doctor”—to break down what’s really going on when sleep just isn’t happening. From the myth of “8 hours” to why your brain suddenly spirals the second your head hits the pillow, this conversation gets into the science, the stress, and the real-life patterns that impact sleep.

They talk chronotypes, anxiety at night, hormones, and the frustrating cycle of trying everything and still feeling wired but exhausted. But the biggest takeaway? It might not be about doing more—it might be about simplifying what you’re already trying to do.

Notes they sent me: 

Watch Dr. Michael on Youtube HERE!

Follow Dr. Michael on Instagram: @thesleepdoctor

Take the at home sleep test HERE!

(The Sleep Doctor At-Home Sleep Test provides clinical-level sleep analysis from the comfort of your own bed. Using two simple sensors and a connected app, users receive personalized results reviewed by a licensed provider in under a week.)

Visit SleepDoctor.com for all other info!

 

Other links mentioned in the episode below:

Orion Cooling Mattress Pad (orionsleep.com)

The Orion Cooling Mattress Pad uses active temperature regulation technology to maintain an optimal sleep environment and reduce overheating throughout the night. It offers smart-bed-level cooling benefits at a more accessible price point.

Timeshifter (timeshifter.com)

Timeshifter is a science-backed jet lag app that creates personalized travel plans based on your sleeppatterns, chronotype, and flight schedule. Used by astronauts and elite athletes, it provides precise guidance on light exposure, caffeine timing, and sleepscheduling.

Upgraded Formulas Magnesium

Upgraded Formulas Magnesium is a whole-food, highly bioavailable supplement designed to support sleep quality, muscle relaxation, and nervous system balance. Its gentle formulation makes it ideal for those whose sleep issues are linked to magnesium deficiency.

Muse (choosemuse.com)

Muse is an EEG-powered meditation headband that provides real-time feedback to help users build a consistent mindfulness practice. By guiding the mind back to focus with gentle audio cues, it supports relaxation and improved pre-sleep wind-down.

Sleep-Drink-Breathe 3-Week Plan

The Sleep-Drink-Breathe 3-Week Plan is a structured, science-backed program designed to improve sleepby optimizing hydration, breathing, and daily recovery habits. The step-by-step system offers practical, sustainable strategies to help reset sleep quality.

 

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HOST: Kelly Henderson // @velvetsedge // velvetsedge.com

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.3

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast.

0:07.7

Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand

0:11.8

new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes.

0:15.5

Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the

0:20.3

biology of taunons and wampas

0:22.2

on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two.

0:28.3

Listen to Stuff to Bo Your Mind on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

0:33.5

podcasts.

0:45.6

Music It's your podcasts. Dr. Michael Bruce is known as the Sleep Doctor.

0:48.9

He's a double board certified clinical psychologist and clinical sleep specialist,

0:53.6

a diplomat of the American

0:55.2

Board of Sleep Medicine and a fellow of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.

1:01.6

He's been in clinical practice for over 25 years, has written multiple best-selling books,

1:06.2

including his latest book, Sleep, Drink, and Breathe, and has become the go-to sleep expert for everyone

1:11.8

from Oprah Winfrey to professional athletes. You guys may have also seen him on the Today Show,

1:17.1

live with Kelly and Mark, or in the Wall Street Journal and Time. And he's here today to help

1:21.8

those of us who struggle with sleep, i.e. me, as I told you before the podcast, hi, Dr. Bruce. Hey, Kelly. It's great to be here.

1:30.3

Thanks for having me. I'm so glad you're here. As I was telling you before the podcast, my listeners

1:34.5

are very accustomed to me talking about sleep issues. And in fact, I had one of those nights last

1:40.2

night where I really struggled. Oh, let's hear all about it. Spill the beans, girls,

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