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Welcome to The View from 22 podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman, the assistant editor of The Spectator.

In this week's issue, Melanie Phillips writes on the issue of gender. She argues that not all children are gender fluid and that it can be dangerous to try and persuade them otherwise.

Melanie is joined by trans activist and civil servant Jackie Gavin.

And is the game over for sport?

Simon Barnes says that with scandals embroiling tennis, athletics and football, amongst others, the sporting world is in trouble as never before.

He says there is a danger that spectators are losing trust, beginning to walk away.

And the spectators Alex Massey agrees.

I'll also be talking to the spectator's political editor James Forsyth, who says more politicians across Europe are realizing the European project is in grave danger, whether Brexit happens or not.

We'll be joined by Spectator editor Fraser Nelson.

Now, is it bigotry to believe the sexes are binary?

Are there only boys and girls, or is everyone something in between? Melanie Phillips

fears that it is fast becoming politically incorrect to maintain the distinction between the sexes,

and the chair of the Women and Equality Committee, Maria Miller, has said government should strip back ways of bringing up gender.

But Melanie says it isn't gender which is fluid, just the language

we use to talk about it. She's joined by leading trans activist Jackie Gavin, vice chair of

Agender, the civil service network for gender identity. So Melanie, in this week's magazine,

you say that promoting gender fluidity is likely to make children confused or distressed.

Why is that?

Is that not just actually just being kinder to children and letting them feel a little bit more free in their identities?

I think there is a tremendous confusion over all of this.

And I took issue in particular with the Select Committee the select committee on women inequalities, which basically says that you don't

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