Okay, Jillian Turecki.

I feel like I have been talking to you on Instagram for years now.

You just don't know it because I'm speaking it out loud every time I see a real of yours.

I'm like, yes, that's it.

So it's really a joy for me to have you here. So welcome to my podcast. Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's an absolute honor. I have fast like a girl. I'm still trying to hear. I'm trying to figure it out. Okay, if you ever need help, you know where to find me. I know where to find you. Yeah. Yeah. So you have an express pass to my brain if you would like it.

Oh, that's so sweet.

Likewise.

So let me tell you why I called you here, and I really want my audience to know this too,

is that one of the things I love about your style is I would call it very no nonsense.

You say it like it is, and I think in relationships we often lie to

ourselves, especially as women. And whenever I see your reels, I'm like, oh, man, isn't that true?

And what I see with my audience and what I really want to have a deep conversation about is that

you have women who are

going through this massive life change where their hormones are changing, their behaviors.

Maybe they gave their whole life over to their family and now their kids are grown.

And they're coming in, I really think a woman's really deeply steps into her power

as she moves through menopause. And that power, that place of awakening, actually I feel is

contributing to the divorce rate and these new trends that we're hearing like the gray divorce.

And I don't think it's a marital

problem. I think there's something going on in the relationship when a woman finally stands up for

herself. And I may be wrong. So that's why I got you here is help us understand what a healthy

25, 30-year relationship looks looks like and how do we get

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