Welcome, everybody. This program is called Next Up with Mark Halper. It's the main reason I got the job. I fit the title. I'm the editor-in-chief of the live interactive video platform two-way and your host here, guide to everything next up. Really exciting. A lot of news going on in the world. We could do 100 different topics today to stay on the news. But we're going to do

one specific thing because branded segments, branded segments is a very big deal in the media.

And one of our branded segments is what we call 8 for 28. And today we debut our second round

of the rankings of the most likely people to become

the Democratic nominee for president in 2028.

I do extensive reporting with Democrats.

What I do is I take the previous list and I think about where I think things are based on

the reporting I've done.

And then I send it out this time to 21 different Democrats

with experience in national politics, two Republicans, so 21 Democrats, two Republicans,

all with great experience. And I ask them, who do you want to move up? Who do you want to move

down? And I'm never going to please everybody, but I try to listen to their reasoning and then

produce the list. So you'll see today some pretty big changes from one month the next about not only

who's where on the list, but who's included and who's not.

We'll get to that in just a minute.

And I'll walk you through exactly what I see of what the ratings are.

Then after that, we'll bring in two really smart Democratic strategists. Patty Salillis Doyle, worked with Hillary Clinton, Karen Skelton, worked with Al Gore and many others. They're going to react to my list. They're going to make challenges of what they see, add their own insights, who should be on, who should be off, et cetera. It'll be fun. I'm looking forward to seeing what they think. I didn't ask them about the list previously. They weren't part of the initial consultation because I knew they were going to be joining us. And then after that, we're going to close out with a conversation with Mike Rogers. He's been endorsed by Donald Trump as a Republican Senate candidate in Michigan. He ran two years ago, just barely lost by a handful of votes running again for that open seat. So we'll talk to him about the

Senate race and how he sees policy on things like AI looking forward to talk to him. He's whether you

agree with him politically or not, one of the most thoughtful people in the House and now running for

Senate. So that's what we've got for you today. Looking to it all but we're going to start with without

further ado the second round of my eight for 28 rankings of the democrats most likely to be their

nominee now i got a caveat this for you because i'm always going to get a lot of feedback to this

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