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Stay Tuned with Preet

Why People Do Bad Things (with Patrick Radden Keefe)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2022

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Patrick Radden Keefe is a staff writer at the New Yorker and the author of books including Say Nothing and Empire of Pain. His new essay collection, Rogues, features several of his most widely-read New Yorker articles, with a particular focus on criminals and con artists. Preet speaks with Keefe about the craft of long-form investigative journalism, what fascinates him about crime and corruption, and what motivates people to do bad things. Plus, Preet discusses the January 6th Committee hearings and the importance of establishing former President Trump’s criminal intent in inciting the Insurrection. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/why-people-do-bad-things-with-patrick-radden-keefe/  Tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

0:06.0

I'm Pete Barara.

0:08.0

I think each of us when we wake up in the morning, we kind of tell ourselves a story about the life we're living.

0:13.0

And you look at yourself in the mirror and you try to count for the decisions that you've made.

0:19.0

And I think we all lie to ourselves to greater and lesser degrees.

0:30.0

That's Patrick Radden-Kief.

0:32.0

He's a staff writer at the New Yorker who has become known for his works of narrative nonfiction,

0:37.0

which are often about criminals and con-artists.

0:40.0

In recent years, he's written multiple New York Times bestsellers, say nothing about the troubles in Ireland,

0:46.0

an empire of pain, about the Sackler family, whose company created OxyContin.

0:52.0

Kief has just published an essay collection that features some of his most acclaimed New Yorker pieces.

0:57.0

It's called Roaks, true stories of grifters, killers, rebels, and crooks.

1:03.0

I spoke with Kief about the moral questions that guide his work,

1:06.0

what causes people to do bad things, and what are the limits of empathy?

1:11.0

That's coming up. Stay tuned.

1:41.0

Hey folks, this Thursday, July 7th, at 6.30pm, the brilliant hosts of now and then, Heather Cox-Witcherson and Joanne Freeman,

2:01.0

will be joined by Emory African American Studies professor Carol Anderson for a live taping.

2:06.0

Last year, Professor Anderson published the second, Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America,

2:12.0

a book that is all too relevant, especially after the latest terrible news at a Pylon Park, Illinois.

2:18.0

Heather, Joanne, and Carol will discuss the scourge of mass shootings that have plagued the nation,

2:23.0

the Supreme Court's ruling in the New York City concealed carry case, and the future of the second amendment.

2:28.0

You can tune in on Cafe's social platforms or Heather's Facebook page.

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