What's going on? Well, builders today. I've got an OG in this online space. This dude is famous for podcast.

He is also an OG when it comes to writing books. He's written a book called Super Fans.

He recently started a YouTube channel and has made over a million

bucks with just that channel alone, along with all these other business endeavors

have done along the years. Welcome to the Wealthy Way Podcast. I'm Ryan Paneda, your host, and the founder of Wealthy University. I've invested in

over $100 million of real estate and have built multiple eight-figure businesses.

My mission is to help you build wealth and grow in your faith.

So get ready for some raw conversations

with some of the most successful people in the world.

Let's hop into it.

I've got Pat Flynn.

What's up, man? What's up? Oh gee I sound old now when people say that. I mean you told me you've been at it since

Oh eight so I mean that's that's a long time. I mean that's pretty much like the beginning of this online social media space.

Yeah, it was and it was a rough beginning for me because I had gotten laid off from architecture,

didn't know what I was going to do, and I went to the internet to figure things out, and learned

a lot of what not to do first. I mean like back then there's no people teaching it

you know like it was kind of like from the direct response industry I would assume. Right.

Well, there were a group of people who were bloggers,

some nerdy people were podcasting,

and I caught on to one podcast that told the story

about a guy who was making six figures of your

helping people pass an exam, the project management exam.

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