Why OCIA Isn’t Working (and How to Fix It)

Every Knee Shall Bow (Your Catholic Evangelization Podcast)

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4.9 • 863 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

OCIA is meant to guide people into a living relationship with Jesus Christ, but too often it skips the most important step: real evangelization.
Gomer and Dave break down the stages of OCIA, expose the biggest gaps, and explain why many people fall away after entering the Church. They share practical ways to rethink parish evangelization, how to know if someone is truly ready for the sacraments, and why a personal encounter with Christ must come first.

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0:00.0	This podcast is brought to you by Ascension.
0:02.9	To discover even more free Catholic podcasts, videos, and resources, to help you live your faith every day, visit ascensionpress.com.
0:11.4	You have to have your own personal faith in the dead and risen Lord and in the church that he instituted in order to enter into the
0:22.3	sacrament of baptism, confirmation, and First Holy Communion.
0:44.4	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to every knee, shall bow, your weekly Catholic podcast on evangelization and discipleship.
0:53.3	My name is Mike Gomer Gormley, and I am joined this week as sometimes by Dave, right of acceptance, Van Vickle.
0:54.1	How you doing, Dave? I do. I accept all. You all have come into my right of acceptance, Van Vickle. How you doing, Dave?
0:55.2	I do.
0:56.0	I accept all.
0:58.8	You all have come into my right of acceptance.
1:01.5	All are welcome in this place.
1:02.0	Man,
1:02.8	I'm doing so good.
1:04.1	The weather's so nice here.
1:07.0	And I'm just like every morning,
1:09.4	I'm just supermanning up with the red sun.
1:13.0	And it's been very nice. Very nice.
1:21.9	The other day, my, I sat on my deck for two hours, drinking coffee. And I like set my phone next to me. And the kids were inside. And I like at the end, at like the end of the two hours, I found like three or four text messages like where are you we're all looking for you where did you go nobody's not to just look on the deck the funny thing is your deck is surrounded by windows in the house right it's right and like glass doors It was glorious. It was clearly a divine mercy
1:45.9	miracle. That's what it was. St. Faustina throwing this one up for you. Thank you,
1:52.1	girl. You got your boy. Okay. So here's some fun stuff. Today is April 14th when we're
1:59.5	recording this. You know what tomorrow is?
2:03.1	15th.
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