Why Muslims Are Leaving Islam for Christianity (David Wood) | Ep. 550

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 193 minutes

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In this interview, Matt sits down with David Wood, an evangelical apologist who focuses his efforts on exposing the truth about Islam. The conversation touches on David's start as an apologist, his friendship with Nabeel Qureshi (who authored the book "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus), what it was like in the early days on YouTube, receiving death threats from Muslims, why Muslims are leaving Islam and becoming Christian, David's journey from atheism to Christianity, and much more. 📚 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Our-Refu... 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 https://mattfradd.locals.com/support 💵 Show Sponsors: 👉 College of St. Joseph the Worker: https://www.collegeofstjoseph.com/mat... 👉 Truthly – The Catholic faith at your fingertips: https://www.truthly.ai/ 👉 Hallow – The #1 Catholic prayer app: https://hallow.com/mattfradd 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: / mattfradd 📸 Instagram: / mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: / pints_w_aquinas 🎵 TikTok: / pintswithaquinas 👕 PWA Merch – Wear the Faith! Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com Time Stamps: 00:00:00 – Intro and Matt's new book 00:01:37 – How David became interested in Islam 00:25:17 – David's fight to keep his YouTube channel 00:34:27 – The Muslim response to David's work 00:46:10 – What Christian apologists should NOT do 00:57:50 – Should we say "Islam" or "Mohammedanism"? 01:02:07 – The Islamic dilemma 01:48:50 – Do Muslims have a solution to the Islamic dilemma? 02:07:47 – Was Muhammad a prophet or liar? 02:25:06 – Why David is a Christian 02:40:08 – Does David miss his deceased son? 02:43:05 – Prison time and conversion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Pines with Aquinas is brought to you by Truthly, which is a groundbreaking Catholic AI app built to help you know, live and defend the Catholic faith.
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0:15.0	Uthman, the third of the rightly guided Caliphs burned all the Qur'ans.
0:18.0	So by the time you get to the third of the rightly guided
0:20.9	caliph, so you have Muhammad, then you have Abu Bakr, then you have Umar, then you have Uthman. Okay. By the time you're at Uthman, there are so many differences in the Quran that he has to order the entire Muslim community to hand over their Qurans. And he burns them all and issues a standardized Quran. I often think that we don't give people enough credit when we are expecting them to change deep-seated beliefs.
0:43.3	You know, we say, just convert, just convert to my brand of Christianity or convert to this religion.
0:48.3	Islam is the religion of submission to Allah, but the only way you can submit to Allah is by submitting to everything Muhammad says.
0:57.7	So, I mean, just imagine that.
0:58.7	Hey, guys, you want to submit to God?
1:00.1	Yeah, we want to submit to God.
1:01.1	Okay, then you have to submit to everything I say and you can't question anything I say ever.
1:04.7	If I started a religion, I would definitely do that.
1:17.0	Hey, everybody. Before we get into today's interview, I want to tell you about my brand new book. It's called Jesus, our refuge. If you, like many people, unlike all of us, to one degree or another,
1:23.7	have been seeking refuge in things other than Jesus Christ and have just found yourself
1:29.1	increasingly weary. Then this book is for you. This book is about taking Jesus seriously when he says,
1:36.9	come to me, you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. It's getting great reviews,
1:42.7	and I know it will be a healing balm to your soul.
1:47.4	Check it out, Jesus, our refuge. You can get it right now on Amazon. Thanks.
1:52.4	David Wood, what would you rather someone be a Muslim or an atheist and why?
1:57.6	An atheist at this point. Because it's very common to say, okay, it's great.
2:03.4	Muslims believe in God.
2:06.2	They believe in Jesus to an extent.
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