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During this whole process, I was excited. I was like, this is great. I need to tell my grandparents about this. I need to tell my family about this.

Because I thought that becoming a Catholic, just how ignorant I am, meant you're becoming a more serious Christian, a more traditional Christian, and everyone's going to be happy about that.

I had no idea. Right. I didn't know what the Reformation was at all. So, you know, the early church belief on baptism actually being efficacious for

salvation actually does something. It's not symbolic. And then similar with the Eucharist. And I was like,

wait, it hasn't always been like Calvary Chapel. I thought, I didn't know that there was a difference

in belief before. Like, why did we change that? That's kind of weird. So that just totally

shocked me. And I couldn't believe that I

was believing something that used to not be believed by any Christians. Yeah, I remember that.

And I think at one point, you brought up like, every church father that has spoken on the Eucharist

says that it is the true body and blood of Christ. And doesn't that bother you? And he said, no, I don't really care.

And I was like, that kind of bothers me, though.

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