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Why MTG’s Chaos Makes Her Useful

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and JVL take on Marjorie Taylor Greene’s break from Trump, why her sincerity sets her apart from the GOP’s careerist crowd, and what her Epstein-driven pivot says about the party’s collapse into pure performance politics.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bullwark. And I'm here with JVL, fresh off of the weekend looking fresh, has a nice triad today, where he goes for, goes out for his girl, MTG. And this is what actually impressed me at the triad. I had no idea you were such an eat, pray, love fan i know not a not a fan fan i hate i i've

0:26.3

always been mildly obsessed with eat pray love as a symbol of american decadence yeah and uh and like

0:33.8

late stage capitalism i've never seen it.

0:58.0

Never seen it. It's okay. You don't need to. Am I missing something? No, okay. You don't need to. But it's a very American story. And it's a story about, you know, it's a very common story, right? It's like death of a salesman, but with like unbelievably privileged Manhattanite. And, you know, Like you look up one day and you realize, well, shit, is this all there is?

1:01.1

And, you know, and you go through a series of personal crises.

1:03.3

And I think that's what happened to Marjorie Taylor Green.

1:03.8

Yeah. And it's one of the reasons I find her so relatable.

1:06.4

So let's talk about the calm because you make a compelling case that she's actually being sincere.

1:12.6

And that or at least we should take what she's doing as sincere.

1:16.0

I mean, she's always seemed sincere to me.

1:18.5

So she is born rich.

1:21.0

Her dad runs a construction company and she's Catholic and she's in Georgia.

1:26.6

She gets married real young.

1:28.8

She gets married her junior year of college.

1:32.3

So, you know, like she's still in college.

1:35.0

She graduates the next year.

1:36.6

She goes into, she has three kids.

1:39.5

She becomes a CFO of the construction company that her family owns.

1:43.3

And then like around 2011, you can see

1:46.3

she looks up and she's like, really? This is it. You know? And I don't know. As anybody who's

1:53.3

ever been in their 30s knows this is a feeling, which is not wildly uncommon. And so she,

1:58.5

she quits the construction company. And she starts getting really into CrossFit.

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